Randoms and Others

This page is devoted to records that didn’t fit in one of the main label collections and/or I only have 1 or 2 releases for that band so there was no point in doing a devoted band page for them.

Bad Religion – “Against The Grain” LPThis is an original test pressing of Bad Religion’s “Against The Grain” LP on Epitaph Records. You can see the Epitaph catalog number and original pressing date of August 27th, 1990. I decided to buy this on eBay one day in the early 2000’s when I saw it selling for like $25-$30. I think I got it for $35? I recently sold it for over $500! I was super surprised when it finished so high, I wasn’t sure if it was worth much. Bad Religion was my absolute favorite band when I was a kid. My freshman year of high school, I went to see Pearl Jam play at the Polo Fields in San Francisco, CA. Bad Religion opened for them, and I was instantly hooked. Growing up in a “cow town” with less than 10,000 people, I’d never really been exposed to any “punk” other than Green Day on MTV. I couldn’t believe how “fast” Bad Religion played (in hindsight, it really wasn’t very fast, but it was faster than anything I’d ever heard). At the show, I picked up the “Stranger Than Fiction” album. I was blown away by the intelligence in Greg Graffin’s lyrics (he has a PhD in some sort of Biology and taught at UCLA). I bought all of their back catalog and listened to them every day of my life in high school. I remember using “You create your own reality, and leave mine to me” as my quote in the high school senior year book next to my photo. I also remember writing that every time I signed someone’s year book that year, haha. 15 years later, I’m still glad that was the quote that I chose.

Barfight – “s/t” 7″Barfight was a crazy side project type band from Virginia featuring multiple singers, including Dave Byrd from Striking Distance, Jason Mazzola from Count Me Out, and Linas Garsys from Malfunction Records. They only played a few times, but were known for their wild live shows and non-PC lyrics. This 7″ was a one-time pressing by Malfunction Records, with 100 on purple vinyl and 400 on black. There were also a few rare copies with purple/pink/etc swirl. I owned a test pressing out of 15 copies, shown further below.

Back cover

Numbered dust sleeve.

Test pressing, out of 15, with alternate cover.

Black vinyl out of 400.

Sometime around 2010, Dave Sausage re-released the Barfight record on 12″ format on Six Feet Under Records. I believe it was a one-time pressing of only 105 copies on clear vinyl. At the time, I was running a screen printing business called Arctic Ink with my buddy, Ryan Mattos, from Ceremony. Dave asked Ryan to screen print the covers, and he did an awesome job. I remember going to the shop and seeing these things lying around everywhere because they had to dry. Once he shipped the covers back to Six Feet Under, they sprayed each cover with real blood. Gnarly.

Back cover

Check out the real blood on the cover!

Blacklisted – “The Beat Goes On”I just like this poster… It’s a huge tri-fold horizontal poster.

Comeback Kid – “Demo 2002” CDCD-R demos aren’t anything special, but I found this the other day and figured I’d add it here. I became buddies with Scott Wade (the original singer of CBK) over AIM (AOL Instant Messenger, haha), and we always talked about how we wished that our bands could play shows together, but we were both “demo only bands”, living thousands of miles apart. Not to mention CBK was isolated way out in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada! A year or two later, they signed to Facedown Records, came out to California, and played shows with my band, The Damage Done. We were stoked! Who knew that 6 years later I would travel with them on a CBK/Verse tour to Japan!

Here’s an original t-shirt that they were selling during the demo days. There’s nothing on the back.

Comeback Kid – “Turn It Around” LPThe original Comeback Kid LP, with Scott Wade on vocals, before he quit the band and Andrew moved from guitar to vocals. My friend Duncan Moore released this on his label, Give Me Strength Records, after it was licensed to him by Facedown Records. There were a lot of different pressings of this LP, but I always thought this “cow pattern” of red and clear vinyl looked the coolest – it matches the layout really well.

Back cover

Converge – “Jane Doe” 2xLPI could never get into Converge, but when “Jane Doe” came out, I really tried to give it a chance because all of my friends were so into the previous Converge LP’s. It never did grow on me, but I obviously appreciate that this album has become a modern classic, so I’ve included it here. It really shaped the landscape of Converge’s sound and aesthetic from here on out, not to mention an entire sub-scene/cult! haha. The imagery of Jane Doe has become as much of a representation as anything else for Converge and Jacob Bannon’s art style. The clear vinyl was out of 300 copies. The other original colors pressed by Equal vision are shown further below. This album has also been repressed recently by Deathwish Inc.

Gatefold layout outside.

The gatefold layout does not contain lyrics. I can’t remember if this record was completely devoid of printed lyrics, or if I’ve lost an additional lyric sheet? I feel like I remember people talking about the lyrics not being printed in any version of this release, but I could be remembering that wrong.

This is the most limited version of this release, the “band/friend” edition on red/orange split vinyl out of only 150 copies. I have actually owned quite a few copies of this over time and it has always served me very well in trades!

This rootbeer float colored vinyl was out of 500-550 copies, I believe. That could make sense since 550, 300, and 150 add up nicely to a 1st pressing of 1,000 copies? I would guess that Equal Vision re-pressed this on black vinyl at some point long before the Deathwish represses, but I don’t remember seeing any around?

Converge / Hellchild – “Split” LPI’m not much of a Converge fan at all, but I bought this record solely because it was selling for cheap and it is Deathwish, Inc #1.  The first release by Deathwish ever!  It’s also #1/8, which is kinda cool.  For some dumb reason, I didn’t get the numbering in the photo.  But there was a number that said 1 out of 8.  I think it was a sticker on the other side of the dust sleeve.  I sold it already, so I can’t take another photo.  Another cool thing about this test pressing is that the regular LP was a picture disc, but the test pressing does not have the picture disc image on it.  That’s why it looks like weird white vinyl with a black border around it.  I’ve never seen a “picture disc test pressing” like this, so that makes it kind of unique too.

Cornerstone – “Beating The Masses” LPBefore Connecticut had Fastbreak, there was Cornerstone. Connecticut Crucial Kickbox! haha. This yellow/tan vinyl was out of 300 copies.

The outside of the gatefold layout.

Inside layout

Earth Crisis – “All Out War” 7″This is a test pressing of the original pressing of the first Earth Crisis 7″, “All Out War”, on Conviction Records (I mistakenly wrote “Conversion Records” on the plastic sleeve when I got it – must have had Ignite’s “Call On My Brothers” LP on the mind!).  You can see “1 of 5” written next to the “Record No.”  It also has the release date of October 6, 1992 hand-written on the label.  I actually never even liked Earth Crisis or much metallic hardcore at all, but I went through a phase recently from about 2006-2008 where I thought it would be cool to own hardcore records that were important pieces in the history/timeline of hardcore.  Obviously Earth Crisis changed the hardcore landscape completely in the mid 90’s, so I thought this original 7″ on Conviction Records was an “important piece” to own.  Plus, it was #1/5, which is pretty cool – the very first piece of Earth Crisis vinyl ever pressed!  I saw it selling for pretty cheap, so I said “why not”.  I have since sold it and don’t miss it a bit.  But cool to document here…

Follow Through – “Taking It Back” LPAnother band from Connecticut during the mid to late 90’s. I believe there are 394 on blue vinyl.

X-Swatch on the b-side label!

Guns Up – “Outlive” LPChanneling their inner love of No Warning’s “Ill Blood” and the entire Madball back catalog, Guns Up was our “next best thing” during the late 2000’s.  This album was released by one of my best buddies, Sean Riley, on 1917 Records right around the time I was releasing the Verse “Rebuild” LP on Rivalry Records, so it will always have a special place with me.  In addition to the clear vinyl, there were some other colors pressed during the 1st pressing, as well as a euro version on Reflections Records.  Life’s ill!  Outlive.

Guns Up test pressing, #18/20.  Riley sent me this Guns Up LP test. In exchange, I sent him a Go It Alone LP test.

2nd pressing on purple vinyl.

Holding On – “Just Another Day” LPI can’t believe how under-rated this album is! It’s just a great all-around hardcore punk album. I think it never caught on because they were pretty isolated, being from Minnesota. The only other problem is that the recording is pretty bad, which is a total bummer because this album could be fucking smokin’ with a better recording. Obviously it was good enough to land them on Bridge 9 for their 2nd album, though I didn’t think that one was quite as good. This yellow vinyl copy was sold on tour, with a glow-in-the-dark screen printed cover. They ripped open some old “$.50 cent bin” jackets and printed on the insides.

Here’s the other side of the original jackets that they ripped open and printed on, haha.

Here’s a close-up of the glow-in-the-dark, screen-printed, spray-painted, stamped cover.

The back cover has a “certificate of authenticity” glued on.

Here’s a close up of the certificate of authenticity, numbered out of 300. Mine is #33/300. You can tell they’re kind of poking fun at the whole “limited” thing.

The test pressings have rip-off covers of classic hardcore punk albums. I believe there were 20 test pressings, with quite a few different covers. My particular copy had a Minor Threat “Out Of Step” rip-off cover. I can’t seem to remember what other covers I’ve seen for these test pressings.

I think the green vinyl was out of 500?

Nails – “Obscene Humanity” 12″ EPTodd Jones’s heaviest, gnarliest shit to date, by far. Seriously, this shit will rip you to shreds and crush your insides. My friend texted me once with “I honestly shouldn’t be driving while listening to this”, hahaha. The layout is super simple, with a sticker glued to a blank white jacket, a la the Straight Ahead LP. This was co-released by Six Feet Under Records and Streetcleaner Records (Todd’s own label).

Nails – “Unsilent Death” LPThe 2nd installment in the Nails saga. The pink vinyl looks awesome for such a gnarly heavy release. Cool stuff.

No Justice – “s/t” 7″No Justice only released this one 7″ on Underestimated Records, but they were a notable band right around the 2000 era, mostly due to their wild live shows.  During this period, it seemed like the shows you heard the most about on messageboards were No Justice, Right Brigade, or Shark Attack shows, as far as crazy shit happening, etc.  No Justice had Timmy from Bladecrasher on vocals, and he was a wild man.  He’d climb up things, jump off them, swing the mic around hitting people in the face, or even pick up pieces of the drum kit (cymbals!) and fling them into the crowd.  If I remember right, one of their craziest shows was at Chicago Fest with flying cymbals and trash cans getting lit on fire during their set, or something.  I heard that at their last show, Timmy practically destroyed their drummer Gene’s entire drumkit (Gene later played drums in Desperate Measures, Lion Of Judah, etc).  I remember there being some sort of bad blood between the two of them already, so I imagine it was intentional, and I’m sure Gene was not stoked on it, haha.  I only got to see No Justice play one time, but it was an infamous show.  They played in San Francisco, outside the 16th/Mission St. BART train station, right out in public!  The guys in What Happens Next had been doing this for a while – they would just pick a time, advertise it via fliers, and then at the specified time, just show up and play!  I can’t remember if they found an electric plug somewhere near that BART station entrance, or if they just played off a fucking generator!  Either way, it’s like the punkest fucking thing you could ever see.  If I remember it correctly, each band would play 2 or 3 songs, then switch and let the other band play, and they would go back and forth like this until they saw cops coming.  While the bands were playing, you had dudes skating around, bums/crackheads/chickenheads running around doing weird shit, regular ass civilians walking by and/or stopping to watch, and punk kids circle pitting and/or moshing around.  Band members and punk kids were climbing up on metal garbage containers, diving off on other punks, bums, and passersby.  It was an all around crazy scene, and I’m super psyched I got to see No Justice play in this environment – it was perfect for a band with their vibe.  I actually have a VHS copy of this show, and it’s a trip to watch it every once in a while.  I bought my first copy of the No Justice 7″ at this show because I was still waiting on my pre-order copy in the mail.  The copy I bought was the tour version, with blank maroon labels.  Later I got my pre-order copy, which has a different cover, out of 100.  Originally all of these 7″s were on black vinyl.  Some had the lettering colored on the cover with marker, so that explains the copy on black vinyl with red lettering on the cover.  At some point there was a red vinyl pressing out of 100, and a clear vinyl pressing out of 200 which came with Consequence Fanzine.  There are 5 “transition” copies between the red and clear vinyl, which are called the “pink” copies.  Really, they’re more clear with some red/pink streaks in them. Years and years later, there was this pressing on gold vinyl, with gold colored-in lettering.  I don’t remember how many they pressed.

This is the tour pressing that I bought at that sweet S.F. BART show. They just sold them right there on the street out of a box.  The inside of the cover has the “tour pressing” stamp.

The back of the pre-order cover has this cool Underestimated Records imprint seal on the back cover.  This is kind of a cool little thing that I’ve never seen another label do.

Here’s the “pink” vinyl copy, #Steve Giraud, out of 5 copies.  Instead of numbering them one through five, they were numbered with the name of the person that originally got the record.  Mine is #Steve Giraud, which eventually became Steve of Martyr Records.  I didn’t get it from Steve – it had already changed hands a few times.  I got it from a dude in the D.C. area.

Close-up of the pink vinyl copy, with the Consequence Fanzine stamp on the inside of the cover.

Close-up of the clear vinyl copy with number out of 200 and Consequence Fanzine stamp on the inside of the cover.

The inserts changed paper colors over the years.  My tour and pre-order versions have green inserts.  My red vinyl and black vinyl/red lettering copies have red inserts.  The clear vinyl copies had yellow inserts and an ad for Consequence Fanzine.  My gold vinyl pressing has a white insert.

This would have been such a dope show to attend…

Redemption 87 – “s/t” LPRedemption 87’s “self-titled” LP is a really great record that kind of gets lost in the shuffle of hardcore history.  This is partly because R87 existed during a particularly strange era of hardcore where there was mostly metallic/slow hardcore going on.  On top of that, they were from the west coast, so any faster hardcore that was finally starting to develop was happening on the east coast.  And of course, they were from the Bay Area of California, which has always had a rich punk history, but not so much in the way of traditional straight forward hardcore.  In fact, one of the only notable hardcore bands ever from the Bay Area is Unit Pride, Eric Ozenne’s (vocalist of R87) previous band.  This LP was released on New Age Records during a period where they really did release a lot of classic hardcore records!  Turning Point “It’s Always Darkest”, Mouthpiece “What Was Said”, Unbroken “Ritual” and “Life.Love.Regret.”, Outspoken records, a Strife 7″, and this R87 LP.  I think people forget what a strong stint of records that New Age released during that era!  Anyway – most people who own this Redemption 87 LP on colored vinyl have the clear vinyl.  I’ve always heard it’s out of 300 on clear, but I don’t know for sure.  This purple colored vinyl is very strange.  Most people have never even heard of it, and it almost never pops up.  I don’t know if they only did a real limited run on purple vinyl during a later pressing, or if this was some plant mis-pressing or what the deal is.  Maybe it’s just a regular ‘ol pressing, but they sure do seem to be super rare – you almost never see these things.

I also owned a test pressing of the R87 LP, but I sold it a while back.  Here was the photo I used when I sold it on eBay.  It’s got the usual yellow Erika labels and actually did come with a regular LP jacket.  I got it from Tru Pray a while back when he was selling some things to help pay for medical bills for his bulldog.

The insert of the R87 LP.

Shai Hulud – “Demo” cassette tapeThis was their original demo tape with Damien (Culture, As Friends Rust) singing.  This was even before they got Chad (later guitarist of New Found Glory), who was later replaced with the dude from Europe.

Some Still BelieveThe original band from Redding, CA, which featured pretty much all of the Allegiance members, except for John Eightclip, before they moved to San Francisco. Matt McCall (Skones) sang in both SSB and Right On. This is the first demo from 2000.

Demo 2001, I’m pretty sure it was CD only.

The only SSB 7″ came out on Martyr Records. I threw in an After The Fall sticker here too, since that was the other band from Redding when we were all growing up in Northern California.

Test pressing

Limited cover made for “Che Fest” in San Diego.

Side A of the “Che Fest” vinyl.

Side B labels. They wrote different little sayings on each of these. I’m not sure what “erotic cakes” are, hmmmm…

I’ve got a super rare black swirl transition copy. I think there’s 5 or less of these things.

SSB made a limited cover for their last show, and threw in a CD-R recording of their last few songs. It’s too bad these never came out as a “real” release, because it’s good stuff!

Stop And Think – “Both Demos” LPThe Stop And Think LP was released as a split release between Lockin Out Records and Painkiller Records.  They did a sweet job of doing a limited rip-off of the 1st pressing of the Straight Ahead LP that only had a sticker on the front.  In fact, they went all out and matched the sticker, hand-writing, and insert almost perfectly, even making the “SA” logo into a “S&T” on the insert.  What’s really cool is that I’ve always felt like the regular “eagle” cover was also a Straight Ahead rip-off of the later “lion” covers on the Straight Ahead LP.  I’ve never heard anyone from the Stop And Think camp say they did that on purpose, and I guess it doesn’t look that much like the “lion” cover (obviously Stop And Think lettering style is arched vs. Straight Ahead LP is block).  But I don’t know, I feel like there’s definitely a similarity between the “eagle” on the cover of the Stop and Think LP and the “lion” on the cover of the Straight Ahead.  Maybe I’m just reading more into it because of the limited cover, which definitely was done intentionally.  Either way, here’s some photos comparing the two different Straight Ahead covers to the two Stop And Think covers.

Here’s the 1st and 2nd pressing Straight Ahead covers (left) vs. the Stop And Think covers (right).  The 1st pressing of the Stop And Think was intentionally a rip-off of the SA LP, but I’ve never heard them comment on if the regular Stop And Think LP cover was patterned after the SA “lion” cover.  It sure seems somewhat similar.

Here’s a close-up of the stickers on the “DJ” sleeve versions of each release.  They did a really good job matching the hand-writing and everything on the Stop And Think sticker!

Close-up showing the nice job they did making an insert that properly matched the original Straight Ahead insert, down to the logos and everything.

Stop And Think – “Demo” cassette tapeStop and Think demo tape

Strife – “One Truth” LPSay what you will about what Strife became (Anger Means), but “One Truth” has actually stood up to the test of time pretty well. This thing is still awesome and intense. I’m not sure how many Victory Records pressed on blue vinyl. I also owned a test pressing, but sold it before I took these photos.

The outside of the gatefold layout.

Inside of the gatefold layout.

Treason – “Demo” cassette tapeTreason featured Mark Kelley (Breaker Breaker vocalist) on vocals, Connor Spencer (Lights Out vocalist) on drums, and I believe it was Kevin Williams (Lights Out bassist) on bass, and our friend Zane on guitar (early Never Healed guitarist).  This was a cool demo with 30 second blasters, super distorted vocals, and some electronic stuff happening.  They only played 2 or 3 shows, but it had some cool potential.

Underdog – “The Demos” LPI’m not even much of an Underdog fan, but I’ve just always loved this cover, which was also used on Underdog t-shirts. It’s a great drawing of a skater pulling the plug on a pool so he can skate it.

Back cover

Unit Pride – “s/t” 7″The original Unit Pride 7″ on Step Forward Records. Unit Pride was Eric Ozenne’s band, long before he sang in Redemption 87 or The Nerve Agents. When New York, Connecticut, and Southern California were involved in the first wave of “youth crew” style bands in the late 80’s, Unit Pride was really the only representation from the San Francisco Bay Area in Northern California. To this day, they are still one of the only notable straightedge hardcore bands from this region.

Reverse side

Sometime in the 2000’s, Igby released all the Unit Pride material on this 12″ on his label, Mankind Records. I’m not sure if they were all on red vinyl, nor how many were pressed.

Back cover

Verbal Assault – “Learn” LP
An original test pressing of Verbal Assault’s classic “Learn” LP on Positive Force Records.

12 Responses to Randoms and Others

  1. Andy says:

    Need that Time Flies LP test press so bad… It’s the last item I need to complete my TF collection, if you don’t count the special cover /2 that the label did. As far as I know, only Tru and Linas got them. I can account for one of them, but who knows there the 2nd is….

  2. Dobek Ohashi says:

    That Earth Crisis test press is not on Conversion Records but on Conviction Records.
    The numbering 1/5 is also dodgy.
    Whoever was the genius that wrote “Conversion” on that 7″ must have numbered the record as well as I have seen few copies and none of them were numbered. There were around 5 or 6 of them though so the number of copies seems to be right, just the numbering is done by the previous owner not the label/band

    • Kyle Whitlow says:

      Yo – I’m the “genius” (maybe don’t be such a dick sometimes?) that wrote “Conversion” on the PLASTIC SLEEVE (it’s not on the 7″ or the dust sleeve or anything). I always just write the test pressing info on the plastic sleeve since a lot of times test pressings are just black vinyl with nothing on the labels, making it hard to distinguish one from another. It was just a slight-of-the-hand/brain-fart when I wrote Conversion instead of Conviction. It could be because I’m a total California bro that loves Ignite’s “Call On My Brothers” LP on Conversion! haha. I’ll update the post so that at least the text states “Conviction”.

      As for the numbering on the 7″ label, yeah it was obviously written on when I got it. I mean, I guess you could be right, but it’s kinda weird that the “previous owner” would look up the release date of the record and write that on the labels too? That seems like something rarely done by anyone other than a record label. You very well could be correct, but it’s also possible that only one or two of these got labeled or something. Lord knows there are some Rivalry Records tests out there that didn’t get numbered because I gave them away before numbering the rest or something like that. I’m just pointing out that you always post things so matter-of-factly (“just the numbering is done by the previous owner not the label/band”), but it’s not 100% certain one way or the other unless you’re getting the info straight from the dude that released these things. If you got that info from him, cool. If not, maybe back off the demonstrative statements of certainty just a tad.


  3. Dobek Ohashi says:

    Hey man, as always, I did not mean to offend you in any way, form or shape 🙂
    I did not say it with the mean streak more in a jokingly manner. It does however upset me very mildly when some lads (and some do) try to make the records seem “more rare” or “more desirable” or “more whatever else” by adding some pulled out of their arse “ltd. numbering” and effectively ruin them in the process. It’s sort of like finding a Minor Threat test press with silk screened cover that has “Ratcage Records #1 out of 7” written with a sharpie across the back cover.
    I bet you would be the first one to come up with some clever comment 🙂

    > but it’s not 100% certain one way or the other unless you’re getting the info straight from the dude that released these things.

    Hey, have you ever numbered any of the EARTH CRISIS test presses?
    Like #1/5, #2/5 etc…

    Mine’s not numbered … I don’t remember numbering any. Wouldn’t have been /5 anyway, because there are more than 5

    It’s a really cool record to own nevertheless 🙂
    And looking for an Internet conflict with a dude who I owe heaps of money is the very last thing on my mind right now so there haha 🙂

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  5. Emil says:

    +1 for the first Holding On LP love. The Redemption 87 LP – I got a maroon copy NEW from someone’s distro at Posi Fest ’04. Or was it ’05? The one with the big gang-related chair-fight.

    • Kyle Whitlow says:

      Minneapolis love!! Hmmm, that makes me wonder if that maroon pressing was a re-press done when New Age came “back”? Not sure! (and yes, that was 2004 with the huge fight in the “maze” place. Or did you mean 2005 in the huge dome where there was yet another fight that shut it down? haha)

  6. sriley says:

    Fun to read all of this…hats off for all the time & energy.

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  8. Kim says:


    Maybe wanna sell the demo tape from Shai hulud?
    Greetings from belgium

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